What happened to the zine formatted PDF that used to be in the downloads? I only see the digital file now, which is all nice and good, but I personally like printing my zines in A5/Half Letter
Do you mean the booklet format? I can see if it's possible to export a low ink version like that, but it'll require printing on larger paper like 11*17.
Sorry, but I'd like to chime in here re the above posters question. For best results print at 11x17?!? What?! I have a pretty good laser printer but it only prints max A4, probably like the printers used by many other people here.
So I had a think about what to do, print maybe 4 pages of A5 on one sheet of A4 with say PDFElements, but I'm still left with loose pages (because of the orientation) - can't saddle stitch, can't staple, could use my comb binder but what a faff and ugly too, not to mention how my many other A5 zines would give it the side eye and mumble quietly about it's 'shape'. Not cool. Could glue the sheaf of pages to bind but again, ugh..
I do like the layout and I see why you did it, but for the average Joe, a clean, easy and neat PnP it does not make. How about increasing page count a bit and have each page span two vertical A5s? For most people, there's no easy way out of the dilemma with this large, wonky format. Maybe I'm being a bit thick here, or am missing 'that one simple trick' but can’t see it?
Sorry, didn't mean to ramble but it seems the latest version has brought it (and Miru 1 too) from a homemade stapled A5 to a professional print job. And yeah, you said just cut 'em out and staple them but that's untidy, would feel and look wrong. Anyhow, this aside, what a fun game you've made!
I would recommend folks print each page out on it's own and staple it in the corner. I've put the 'booklet' version up before but it creates a lot of confusion for folks. some printers can't print it right. Horizontal A5 is def a weird size for at home pnp. I tried to make the game simple enough so one just needs to print the character sheet/map, keep the game digital. hard to make it work for everyone.
Right, I think I have it! I was probably overthinking it re the A5 layout. Your suggestion that we use an A3 printer sort of shorted out my lobes and I didn´t immediately see how I could get the most from a page of A4, which many of us are limited to. My fundamental problem was hinging, getting the most I could from one piece of paper and finding a way to do that.
I have in my hands an A5 ´zine´ (taller than it is wide!), the front of which has your ´23 cover in portrait, but when I open and rotate it 90CW, it becomes a flipbook, all printed on my normal A4 max printer, one landscape page after another. And your new layout looks great (way more info for the same ´paper space´! I like it.
For me (Brother L8690CDW), I used page setup-landscape, booklet, (booklet subset)-both sides, binding-left, (orientation)-portrait and ´auto-rotate pages´. I initially printed pages 1 to 8 for test purposes (2 A4) and to limit waste. This may help others.
I had availed the digital version here on itch and when I was going through the pdf of the game, some of texts and there are a lot of em that the fonts are colored white. I couldnt read them unless I turn to nightmode or change the font color.
ummm..... what??? Do you have discord? or can you email me screenshots of where you encountered this? What PDF viewer are you using? This is the first i've heard of this issue. would love to find a way to fix it! You can email me at hinokodo @ gmail .com Please and thank you!
It's available for EU countries! we haven't setup with the UK government yet for VAT collection, as you have to have someone live there represent you and register with their government? only option I've found is paying a rather large monthly fee just to sell books to folks across the ocean. We're in that weird zone where we don't sell/make enough copies to pay the rent/effort of warehouses in the UK/EU. It's not as simple to sell books across the world. Which is why we offer the full color print and play edition. I hear ya tho, wish it were easier to sell across the globe. the way VAT is collected is a little obnoxious frankly.
ah good find on the link, that's fixed. Where in the EU are you? We ship there. I think it's only the UK we don't ship to right now. We're looking into getting books into a distributor there, but it's a little tricky at the moment.
Just came across this, and it looks incredible! Easy purchase.
One question: I'm looking over the rules, and I see mention of Conditions (like starvation)... but I don't see any place on the character sheet for them. Am I missing something, or is this a thing we just need to track separately?
Speaking of the character sheet, is it intentional for some lines to extend to touch the right border of the surrounding box (Active Body, Mask, Tools), whereas other lines terminate nicely with a bit of spacing between their end and the border's edge (Inventory)?
the floating lines for inventory is just for consistency within that box, wasn't sure what to do with the left column of lines. but stretching the lines to touch the walls of the other boxes, allows for a few more mm of space to write.
my intention for conditions like starvation and sleep deprivation (and later poisoning in M2+) are to be marked on the calendar portion of the character sheet. it's not explicitly said, i ran out of room on those pages, but the idea was to place a little mark or something on those dates you are inflicted, or to put a tally in anywhere you see fit, just for a visual reminder. they happen rarely enough, i didn't want to take away anymore space from the other components. Great question though, i'll look things over and see if i can find a way to work that in.
Thanks for the reply! I'm slow-rolling this one (taking turns here and there as time allows), and really enjoying it!
One more question: I just got my first minor injury on day 4. As I understand the rules, I DID move to a new hex, but I don't actually know what it contains. Tomorrow, I MUST move to a new hex (leaving this one blank). At some point in the future I could possibly return here, and then I could discover what terrain it contains (provided I don't get another minor injury in the process).
exactly! you always move to another tile. (but whatever, play as you wish, if you really wanted to stay on the same tile.
Also i thought about your starvation/sleep deprivation tracking comment and i've updated the character sheet. I'll post that soon. (tomorrow is my goal) added some little boxes folks can make a mark in to track how many days they've been inflicted. best with a pencil, but clever pen marks can work.
Thanks for your feedback! it all helps! we have a discord and a miru specific channel if you want a more immediate reply or wanna search some past questions. you can join by visiting www.hinokodo.com if that's your jam.
How would you suggest that this is printed? I've been printing zines in a5 format on a a4 sheet double sided in booklet form, but the format of this one won't work.
I believe the printed one is in A5 format, is there any chance to download that version?
The horizontal editions are best printed on 11x17 pages, (i know that's not a common size) but that's how professional printers would print it. Otherwise, I'd suggest printing it one page at a time and stapling a corner. The old vertical edition was phased out. We've updated some rules and the presentation with the new editions. Last time I offered multiple options in the folder, it confused too many people.
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This is so good!!!! beautiful voice! sharing on the miru discord
Appreciate it!
What happened to the zine formatted PDF that used to be in the downloads? I only see the digital file now, which is all nice and good, but I personally like printing my zines in A5/Half Letter
Do you mean the booklet format? I can see if it's possible to export a low ink version like that, but it'll require printing on larger paper like 11*17.
Sorry, but I'd like to chime in here re the above posters question. For best results print at 11x17?!? What?! I have a pretty good laser printer but it only prints max A4, probably like the printers used by many other people here.
So I had a think about what to do, print maybe 4 pages of A5 on one sheet of A4 with say PDFElements, but I'm still left with loose pages (because of the orientation) - can't saddle stitch, can't staple, could use my comb binder but what a faff and ugly too, not to mention how my many other A5 zines would give it the side eye and mumble quietly about it's 'shape'. Not cool. Could glue the sheaf of pages to bind but again, ugh..
I do like the layout and I see why you did it, but for the average Joe, a clean, easy and neat PnP it does not make. How about increasing page count a bit and have each page span two vertical A5s? For most people, there's no easy way out of the dilemma with this large, wonky format. Maybe I'm being a bit thick here, or am missing 'that one simple trick' but can’t see it?
Sorry, didn't mean to ramble but it seems the latest version has brought it (and Miru 1 too) from a homemade stapled A5 to a professional print job. And yeah, you said just cut 'em out and staple them but that's untidy, would feel and look wrong. Anyhow, this aside, what a fun game you've made!
I would recommend folks print each page out on it's own and staple it in the corner. I've put the 'booklet' version up before but it creates a lot of confusion for folks. some printers can't print it right. Horizontal A5 is def a weird size for at home pnp. I tried to make the game simple enough so one just needs to print the character sheet/map, keep the game digital. hard to make it work for everyone.
Hello again and thank you for your reply.
Right, I think I have it! I was probably overthinking it re the A5 layout. Your suggestion that we use an A3 printer sort of shorted out my lobes and I didn´t immediately see how I could get the most from a page of A4, which many of us are limited to. My fundamental problem was hinging, getting the most I could from one piece of paper and finding a way to do that.
I have in my hands an A5 ´zine´ (taller than it is wide!), the front of which has your ´23 cover in portrait, but when I open and rotate it 90CW, it becomes a flipbook, all printed on my normal A4 max printer, one landscape page after another. And your new layout looks great (way more info for the same ´paper space´! I like it.
For me (Brother L8690CDW), I used page setup-landscape, booklet, (booklet subset)-both sides, binding-left, (orientation)-portrait and ´auto-rotate pages´. I initially printed pages 1 to 8 for test purposes (2 A4) and to limit waste. This may help others.
Kind Regards.
Edit, sorry, an A5 zine
I had availed the digital version here on itch and when I was going through the pdf of the game, some of texts and there are a lot of em that the fonts are colored white. I couldnt read them unless I turn to nightmode or change the font color.
ummm..... what??? Do you have discord? or can you email me screenshots of where you encountered this? What PDF viewer are you using? This is the first i've heard of this issue. would love to find a way to fix it! You can email me at hinokodo @ gmail .com Please and thank you!
I find the lack of care for us EU/UK people so that we can also get a physical print disappointing :(
It's available for EU countries! we haven't setup with the UK government yet for VAT collection, as you have to have someone live there represent you and register with their government? only option I've found is paying a rather large monthly fee just to sell books to folks across the ocean. We're in that weird zone where we don't sell/make enough copies to pay the rent/effort of warehouses in the UK/EU. It's not as simple to sell books across the world. Which is why we offer the full color print and play edition. I hear ya tho, wish it were easier to sell across the globe. the way VAT is collected is a little obnoxious frankly.
Why not use DTRPG? Print on Demand has worked for thousands. I've bought from DTRPG and the quality was always top notch.
I see the link to the US printer, but no EU printer... am I missing something?
Actually the US link is dead at the moment as well.
ah good find on the link, that's fixed.
Where in the EU are you? We ship there. I think it's only the UK we don't ship to right now.
We're looking into getting books into a distributor there, but it's a little tricky at the moment.
I am in Austria.
Just came across this, and it looks incredible! Easy purchase.
One question: I'm looking over the rules, and I see mention of Conditions (like starvation)... but I don't see any place on the character sheet for them. Am I missing something, or is this a thing we just need to track separately?
Speaking of the character sheet, is it intentional for some lines to extend to touch the right border of the surrounding box (Active Body, Mask, Tools), whereas other lines terminate nicely with a bit of spacing between their end and the border's edge (Inventory)?
the floating lines for inventory is just for consistency within that box, wasn't sure what to do with the left column of lines. but stretching the lines to touch the walls of the other boxes, allows for a few more mm of space to write.
my intention for conditions like starvation and sleep deprivation (and later poisoning in M2+) are to be marked on the calendar portion of the character sheet. it's not explicitly said, i ran out of room on those pages, but the idea was to place a little mark or something on those dates you are inflicted, or to put a tally in anywhere you see fit, just for a visual reminder. they happen rarely enough, i didn't want to take away anymore space from the other components. Great question though, i'll look things over and see if i can find a way to work that in.
Thanks for the reply! I'm slow-rolling this one (taking turns here and there as time allows), and really enjoying it!
One more question: I just got my first minor injury on day 4. As I understand the rules, I DID move to a new hex, but I don't actually know what it contains. Tomorrow, I MUST move to a new hex (leaving this one blank). At some point in the future I could possibly return here, and then I could discover what terrain it contains (provided I don't get another minor injury in the process).
Did I get that right?
exactly! you always move to another tile. (but whatever, play as you wish, if you really wanted to stay on the same tile.
Also i thought about your starvation/sleep deprivation tracking comment and i've updated the character sheet. I'll post that soon. (tomorrow is my goal) added some little boxes folks can make a mark in to track how many days they've been inflicted. best with a pencil, but clever pen marks can work.
Thanks for your feedback! it all helps! we have a discord and a miru specific channel if you want a more immediate reply or wanna search some past questions. you can join by visiting www.hinokodo.com if that's your jam.
Playing MIRU has been a wonderful experience, and I wanted to leave a link to a write up that I did about the game.
Thanks for the experience, HINOKODO. This was my first "solo-first" game, and I hope the review can help it reach a few others.
How would you suggest that this is printed? I've been printing zines in a5 format on a a4 sheet double sided in booklet form, but the format of this one won't work.
I believe the printed one is in A5 format, is there any chance to download that version?
The horizontal editions are best printed on 11x17 pages, (i know that's not a common size) but that's how professional printers would print it.
Otherwise, I'd suggest printing it one page at a time and stapling a corner. The old vertical edition was phased out. We've updated some rules and the presentation with the new editions. Last time I offered multiple options in the folder, it confused too many people.
Alright, thank you :)
will it be a "low ink" printer friendly version of the 2025 version of the pdf?